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KJZZ's Here and Now Dec. 4, 2013

Katie Hobbs, D-Phoenix.
(Photo courtesy of the Arizona State Legislature)
Katie Hobbs, D-Phoenix.

Jennifer Richter on the future of nukes, Arizona's economic outlook, Amy Silverman on whether Phoenix is cool, state Sen. Katie Hobbs on what needs to change with Child Protective Services in Arizona and bringing dramatic twists to a holiday ballet.