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To understand how the U.S. became so polarized, an anthropologist looked to the concept of walls

Sonoyta border
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The border fence transitions to vehicle barriers just west of Sonoyta.

In the midst of working on his latest project, about the concept of walls, cultural anthropologist Anand Pandian found himself volunteering with a group called Tucson Samaritans — a humanitarian organization that leaves water and food for migrants in the desert.

One day, another volunteer had him stop him by a cross on the side of the road. The cross marked the place where a migrant woman some years before had walked carrying a stillborn child that was born while the woman was walking through the desert.

The result of Pandian’s work is a book titled "Something Between Us: The Everyday Walls of American Life and How to Take Them Down."

In the wake of the 2016 election, he traveled across the country — including a stop in Scottsdale — to try to find out why we’re so divided as a nation and how we might be able to get back together.

Pandian says his experiences taught him that sometimes walls are made of mortar, but that sometimes they’re made of mistrust.

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Mark Brodie is a co-host of The Show, KJZZ’s locally produced news magazine. Since starting at KJZZ in 2002, Brodie has been a host, reporter and producer, including several years covering the Arizona Legislature, based at the Capitol.