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'This is a record of our time': Letterpress books take years to make on ornate machines

Dan Mayer is the director of Pyracantha Press at Arizona State University.
Sam Dingman
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Dan Mayer is the director of Pyracantha Press at Arizona State University.

The Analogs is a series of stories about people who make things by hand — and what those things tell us about those people.

SAM DINGMAN: In 1975, John Risseeuw had just been hired to teach printmaking at the University of South Dakota, in Vermillion, South Dakota. There was just one problem: the university didn’t have a letterpress machine — not to mention any physical letters, or what printmakers call type. So, John had work to do.

JOHN RISSEEUW: I started writing to printing companies in the area and asking if they had equipment.

DINGMAN: Even then, over 50 years ago, John knew that handset type was on its way out. Lots of presses were being sent to the junkyard, and he figured maybe he could save some of them. It took a lot of query letters, but he finally got a reply, from a printing company in Aberdeen, South Dakota — four hours north of Vermillion.

RISSEEUW: And they replied that they had the letterpress that they had used, and they had put it in mothballs. ... And they said you can come and take as much as you want.

DINGMAN: So John and five other people from the university drove up to Aberdeen with a giant truck. They took everything.

RISSEEUW: We moved something like 13 tons — of lead and presses and a giant paper cutter, that we had to take apart, all into the back of this truck.

Dan Mayer is the director of Pyracantha Press at Arizona State University.
Sam Dingman
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Dan Mayer is the director of Pyracantha Press at Arizona State University.

DINGMAN: It took all of that just to start making prints at the University of South Dakota.

And then, five years later, John had to do that whole thing again. In 1980, he got hired at Arizona State University, and part of his job was to launch a printmaking and book art studio. Once again, he found himself scouring the country for old presses. This time, he came across a doctor in California named Adam Petko.

RISSEEUW: Who was not a printer himself, but he was very enthusiastic about printing, and the history of printing and everything else. And he was literally buying up print shops that were going out of business, and storing the presses and cabinets of type in warehouses, until he could find schools that would take them. And he had a huge quantity of this stuff.

DINGMAN: Once again, John took everything, to the tune of another several tons of equipment. Over the years, he acquired over 1,600 cases of type from Dr. Petko, as well as a 19th century letterpress machine, which is still in use today at ASU’s publishing imprint, Pyracantha Press.

DINGMAN: Oh my god, is that the press?!

DAN MAYER: Yes. It was designed by John Clymer, who was a Philadelphia machinist, and he wanted to design the biggest, heaviest and most ornate press in the world. And he did.

DINGMAN: That’s Dan Mayer, Pyracantha’s director, who showed me around Pyracantha when I visited last fall.

It’s hard to overstate how remarkable this press is as a physical presence. Dan says it weighs about 2,000 pounds. I didn’t measure, but I’d guess it’s about 9 feet tall, and made entirely out of cast iron. In addition to the press bed, levers and wheels, it’s adorned with elaborate design elements painted in vibrant colors: a cornucopia of fruit, a pair of silver dragons and a golden eagle.

They’re beautiful — but they aren’t just for decoration. They’re part of the design. The press bed alone weighs about five hundred pounds, yet it’s almost effortless to move back and forth with the handle of the press.

MAYER: The eagle on top’s a counterweight, and this mechanism just sort of goes up and down, and the eagle rises up, into the sky …

DINGMAN: It may not take much effort to operate the press, but it takes hours to actually make a print. On the day I visited Pyracantha, Dan had set up a demo. He printed an image from a 16th century playing card, surrounded by text.

That may sound simple, but to make something like that on a letterpress machine, you have to set the etching of the image in the center of the press bed, and then select each individual letter of type for the words you want to print. Of course, in order to do that, of course, you first have to select which typeface you want those words to appear in. Each letter is then placed by hand around the etching.

I watched as Dan spread thick black ink over the type and etching, covered them with a blank sheet of paper, and placed a weight on top of the whole thing to hold it in place. Only then did he start pulling the handle of the press. When the print came out, it was a little smudged.

MAYER: And it looks like the paper shifted a little bit, and we’re kind of getting an idea of what it looks like. Typically, I say the first proofs are not the best proofs. It’s like making pancakes in the morning. The first one’s not so great, the second one’s better. There’s a lot of lore to printing, they always say: when you print the last one, it’s the best.

DINGMAN: I asked Dan how long it had taken just to get to this point — choosing the type, preparing the press, and making this initial test print of a relatively small design.

MAYER: Like a half-day?

DINGMAN: Wow.

DINGMAN: A half-day. There’s a reason Dan likes to talk about the full-length books he prints at Pyracantha as five-year projects.

Dan Mayer is the director of Pyracantha Press at Arizona State University.
Sam Dingman
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KJZZ
Dan Mayer is the director of Pyracantha Press at Arizona State University.

MAYER: To do work by hand, you have to be very thoughtful about what you might be working on. The projects are very labor intensive.

DINGMAN: The books that Pyracantha prints aren’t the kind you find in bookstores. These books are works of art, often released in limited editions. You do way more than read them — you sort of experience them.

Dan showed me one called "Eco Songs," published in 2000 with the artist Dimitrije Buzarovski. It’s a song cycle about Earth and ecology printed on handmade paper, which is made out of plant fibers. It opens like an accordion, and includes printed renditions of the lyrics, as well as a CD with recordings of the songs.

MAYER: So it’s very thoughtful as far as how to present the content of the work.

DINGMAN: As I flipped through "Eco Songs," I found myself marveling at the number of ways one might interact with this book. It was beautiful to look at, tactile to hold, and moving in terms of the content of the lyrics.

Dan told me that when an artist like Buzarovski approaches Pyracantha with an idea, they don’t necessarily know they want to make an accordion book on handmade paper, with a CD in it. It usually takes several years of working with Dan to get there.

MAYER: I view myself as an artist collaborator, facilitator of ideas. So if I’m collaborating on something, I pull all my sorta bag of tricks into it. To look at how this project might lay, as far as what it may look like in the end. But you have to trust the process in a way, and follow that journey all along the way.

And then there’s a certain point where you kind of have to mix ink, and get on the press, and print, to finally sort of realize what you’re making. ... It’s a very hybrid form that is an intersection of past and present, and future.

DINGMAN: You need a lot of time to get to something like that — which is why, for Dan, it’s worth every hour that it takes.

MAYER: You know, I think print-making, book arts, you know trying to think of a nutshell way of it, it’s really an extension of the self. You know how you process information, what content you want to express or explore, and then when you’re on a hand press you’re transmitting all that information back to a press bed where you’re taking image and text back off. And it’s actually making it permanent.

DINGMAN: That’s also why it was worth it to John Risseeuw to spend countless hours hauling thousands of pounds of supposedly obsolete equipment around the country to set the press up in the first place. It’s part of why he named the press after the pyracantha plant.

MAYER: When I looked it up, I found that the pyracantha plant is a hardy desert dweller. And there was something else about how it survived in the desert. And I thought that that was a good omen.

DINGMAN: Now, I have to admit something. I didn’t find out about Pyracantha Press by accident. Dan and John actually published a book of photographs and poetry by my mom and my brother called “Moon Journey.”

DINGMAN: Now, I have to say Dan, you have a copy of “Moon Journey” here.

MAYER: Yes, I do. I thought it might come up.

DINGMAN: If you’ve listened to the Analogs story I did about my mom, you know that a big part of my interest in hand-made work is that I feel like I’m on this life-long quest to make things the way she does.

And standing at Pyracantha that day with Dan, I felt like I had a kind of a breakthrough about why I always feel like I can’t quite get there.

DINGMAN: I’m just having this thought as you’re talking about this, probably because we were just looking at "Moon Journey" that everything I have ever made that I would ever consider to be my work, that I would want people to interact with, is in sound.

And there is this beautiful and frustrating thing about working in sound, where you go to a place, you talk to a person, you have an idea about why it would be interesting to talk to that person. You show up there, the conversation goes the way you think it’s going to go, or there are surprises … and then you go back to your desk and you listen through to the thing you’ve recorded, and often times you find that the story has turned into something different than what you thought it was going to be.

And then you finally reach the point that you can make it. You can make the piece. And it doesn’t exist!

I’m sorry, this is a long-winded revelation I’m having —

MAYER: I think I know where you’re going.

DINGMAN: With your work it seems, you can go through that whole similar conceptual process, but then, as you put it, you get on the press, but then you make the thing and you can hold it in your hand and look at it, and really kind of reckon with it.

MAYER: Yeah, I mean, I think it’s — in kind of looking at it in that way, this is a record of our time.

DINGMAN: That is ... I’m gonna keep that with me, Dan.

MAYER: OK.

DINGMAN: Thank you.

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Sam Dingman was a reporter and host for KJZZ’s The Show from 2024 to 2026.